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Monday, September 05, 2005

If there were ever any doubt about how stupid Bob Herbert is 
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If there was ever any doubt about how stupid Bob Herbert is, he's forever removed it with this execrable, hysterical column in the New York Times.

"Bush to New Orleans: Drop Dead"

Neither the death of the chief justice nor the frantic efforts of panicked White House political advisers can conceal the magnitude of the president's failure of leadership last week. The catastrophe in New Orleans billowed up like the howling winds of hell and was carried live and in color on television screens across the U.S. and around the world

Forum: Bob Herbert's Columns

The Big Easy had turned into the Big Hurt, and the colossal failure of George W. Bush to intervene powerfully and immediately to rescue tens of thousands of American citizens SEARCH AND RESCUE IS A LOCAL RESPONSIBILITY, NOT FEDERAL who were suffering horribly and dying in agony was there for all the world to see.

Hospitals with deathly ill patients were left without power, LOCAL RESPONSIBILITY with ventilators that didn't work, LOCAL RESPONSIBILITY with floodwaters rising on the lower floors and with corpses rotting in the corridors and stairwells LOCAL RESPONSIBILITY People unable to breathe on their own LOCAL RESPONSIBILITY or with cancer or heart disease or kidney failure LOCAL RESPONSIBILITY, slipped into comas and sank into their final sleep in front of helpless doctors and relatives. These were Americans in desperate trouble.

HAD THE MAYOR OF NEW ORLEANS FOLLOWED UP ON HIS DIRECTIVE TO HOSPITALS TO MOVE THEIR GENERATORS TO THE THIRD FLOORS THIS WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED

The president didn't seem to notice.

WHY? HE'S GOT THE SAME ACCESS TO NEWS MEDIA YOU DO. BUT WHILE WE'RE ON THE SUBJECT OF WHO NOTICES WHAT, BOB, YOU DON'T SEEM TO HAVE NOTICED THAT THERE IS A SUCH THING CALLED 'LOGISTICS,' AND THAT THE OFFICIALS PRIMARILY RESPONSIBLE FOR DISASTER PREPARATION AND RELIEF - LOCAL AND STATE OFFICIALS - SUFFERED A NEAR COMPLETE PARALYSIS OF COMMAND AND CONTROL. WHEN THAT HAPPENS, ALL THE FEDERAL RESPONSE IN THE WORLD IS INEFFECTIVE, BECAUSE NO MATTER HOW MUCH FEMA COMES UP WITH, IT'S STILL THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CITY AND STATE OFFICIALS TO DIRECT WHERE IT GOES. TOO BAD YOU'RE TOO LAZY TO LEARN WHAT THE HELL YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

Death and the stink of decay were all over the city. LOCAL RESPONSIBILITY Corpses were propped up in wheelchairs and on lawn furniture, or left to decompose on sunbaked sidewalks LOCAL RESPONSIBILITY. Some floated by in water fouled by human feces. DO YOU SEE FEDERAL SEALS ON UTILITY TRUCKS? NO? LOCAL RESPONSIBILITY, ASSHAT.

Degenerates roamed the city, LAW ENFORCEMENT IS A LOCAL RESPONSIBILITY shooting at rescue workers, beating and robbing distraught residents and tourists, LOCAL RESPONSIBILITY TO FIX raping women and girls DITTO, LOCAL RESPONSIBILITY. The president of the richest, most powerful country in the history of the world didn't seem to notice. YOU HAVE NO CLUE WHAT BUSH DID OR DID NOT NOTICE, BOB. YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT HIS JOB IS.

Viewers could watch diabetics go into insulin shock on national television, LOCAL RESPONSIBILITY and you could see babies with the pale, vacant look of hunger that we're more used to seeing in dispatches from the third world LOCAL RESPONSIBILITY. You could see their mothers, dirty and hungry themselves, weeping THEY WERE FAILED BY LOCAL GOVERNMENT

Old, critically ill people were left to soil themselves and in some cases die like stray animals on the floor of an airport triage center LOCAL RESPONSIBILITY. For days the president of the United States didn't seem to notice. ASSUMES FACTS NOT IN EVIDENCE. HERBERT HAS NO IDEA WHAT THE PRESIDENT DID OR DID NOT NOTICE.

He would have noticed if the majority of these stricken folks had been white and prosperous ASSUMES FACTS NOT IN EVIDENCE. THIS KIND OF MUDDLEHEADED HALF-WITTERY IS THE BEST THE NY TIMES CAN DO?. But they weren't. Most were black and poor, and thus, to the George W. Bush administration, still invisible.

After days of withering criticism from white and black Americans, from conservatives as well as liberals, from Republicans and Democrats, the president finally felt compelled to act, however feebly. ACTUALLY, THE PRESIDENT LIVED UP TO HIS RESPONSIBILITY BY RELEASING FEDERAL FUNDS TWO DAYS PRIOR TO THE STORM'S LANDFALL, THEN WENT ABOVE AND BEYOND BY GETTING ON THE PHONE AND LEANING ON NEW ORLEANS TO EVACUATE WHILE LOCAL OFFICIALS DITHERED(The chorus of criticism from nearly all quarters demanding that the president do something tells me that the nation as a whole is so much better than this administration.)

"DO SOMETHING! ANYTHING!" AHH, THE SWEET BLISS OF IGNORANCE.

Mr. Bush flew south on Friday and proved (as if more proof were needed) that he didn't get it. Instead of urgently focusing on the people who were stranded, hungry, sick and dying, he engaged in small talk, reminiscing at one point about the days when he used to party in New Orleans, and mentioning that Trent Lott had lost one of his houses but that it would be replaced with "a fantastic house - and I'm looking forward to sitting on the porch."

Mr. Bush's performance last week will rank as one of the worst ever by a president during a dire national emergency. NO. IT WAS THE WORST EVER BY A CITY GOVERNMENT. THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT PRETTY MUCH MET ITS STANDARD TIMELINES, BUT THE VOLUME OF SUPPORT PROVIDED IN THE 72-96 HOUR STANDARD WINDOW WAS UNPRECEDENTED. THE FEDERAL RESPONSE HERE WAS FASTER THAN HUGO, FASTER THAN ANDREW, FASTER THAN INIKI, FASTER THAN CHARLEY, FASTER THAN FRANCINE AND JEANNE. HERBERT HAS NO CLUE WHAT IN THE WORLD HE'S TALKING ABOUT.

What we witnessed, as clearly as the overwhelming agony of the city of New Orleans, was the dangerous incompetence and the staggering indifference to human suffering of the president and his administration. BOB HERBERT HAS MADE A FOOL OF HIMSELF BEFORE WHEN WRITING ABOUT FEDERAL AGENCIES AND SECURITY ISSUES, AND IS MAKING A FOOL OF HIMSELF AGAIN. HERBERT'S INCOMPETENCE TO ASSESS THIS DISASTER FROM HIS AIR CONDITIONED NYC OFFICE DWARFS ANYTHING I'VE SEEN IN FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, AND IS DWARFED ONLY BY THE INEPTITUDE OF NEW ORLEANS OFFICIALS WHO DIDN'T EVEN CRACK OPEN THEIR OWN DISASTER RELIEF PLAN.

And it is this incompetence and indifference to suffering (yes, the carnage continues to mount in Iraq) INSERT GRATUITOUS IRAQ REFERENCE HERE that makes it so hard to be optimistic about the prospects for the United States over the next few years. GIMME A BREAK! YOU LEFTIE CLOWNS HAVEN'T BEEN OPTIMISTIC ABOUT AMERICA SINCE KENNEDY GOT SHOT, LOSERS! At a time when effective, innovative leadership is desperately needed to cope with matters of war and peace, terrorism and domestic security, the economic imperatives of globalization and the rising competition for oil, the United States is being led by a man who seems oblivious to the reality of his awesome responsibilities.

Like a boy being prepped for a second crack at a failed exam, Mr. Bush has been meeting with his handlers to see what steps can be taken to minimize the political fallout from this latest demonstration of his ineptitude. But this is not about politics. It's about competence. And when the president is so obviously clueless CLUELESS IS AS CLUELESS DOES, BOB. about matters so obviously important, it means that the rest of us, like the people left stranded in New Orleans, are in deep, deep trouble.


Note to NY Times:

While thousands of other reporters and untold bloggers have been doing their own reporting, doing original research, and actually doing a little digging to at least, at the bare minimum, get a grasp of the timeline and the division of responsibility between the federal, state, and local levels of government, your paper has wasted precious editorial real estate on this.

There is no evidence of original reporting. No thoughtful or unique perspective. There's no evidence that Bob Herbert ever cracked open a manual or bothered to talk to someone who actuall knows what it is city and county officials are supposed to do. There's no evidence that Herbert knows that the mayor's failure to activate his own plan left hundreds of buses swamped in flood waters.

There's no evidence that Herbert knows that every county in the country knows that it takes 3-5 days for large scale federal assistance to arrive.

There's no evidence that Herbert has the slightest grasp of the herculean logistical effort required just to move a single truck. He writes as if these challenges don't exist. For shame.

You couldn't get a retired logistician to write an essay? Why are you insulting your readers by publishing such brain candy by an undereducated dunderhead?

Splash, out

Jason

Comments:
Jason,

His target is the President, not the truth. He smells blood and he's attacking, even if the blood inciting his attack instinct is the blood of New Orleans.
 
He's right in now we know why Iraq is a disaster and the War of Terror is against our own people.
 
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/050901/480/flpc21109012015

The above link will take you to a pic from the AP that shows 600+ NOLA school buses that Mayor Nagin FAILED to mobilize for the evac of downtown NOLA prior to the levee breach. I've yet to see this failure pointed out in the MSM, yet one can't help but notice the non-stop complaint of "why hasn't GWB/US government prevented this mess?" I was heartened by LTG Honoree's butt chewing of the media (regarding their slanted coverage), but that seems to have been mostly ignored.
 
I understand the city.county, and state governments totally failed their jobs. But when the MSM doesn't care, and is only interested in hating Bush, how will the American people ever wake up? They read the garbage they're fed and believe because they know no better.
 
If all these responsibilities were LOCAL, as you say, then what is the point of having a FEDERAL Emergency Management Agency? Why have a Department of Homeland Security? Why not let us keep our tax dollars and invest them in what local and state disaster relief/prevention assets we see fit?

You and many other Bush apologists are missing the same point over and over--it's not that local and state officials didn't screw up. They did. More people could've been evacuated (though FEMA's own plans predicted large numbers of people would choose to stay or be unable to leave), there could've been better coordination between local and state agencies. But after the levees were breached, the comments from the Bush Administration showed a shocking lack of understanding about the disaster. The President said that no one expected the levees to be breached. That's nonsense. The director of DHS has no knowledge of thousands at the Convention Center without food or water and can't act based on "anecdotal" evidence, these anecdotes coming from reporters who had been there for a day broadcasting images from that hellhole. The head of FEMA seemingly unable to open his mouth without saying something that defies belief.

Is it not a conservative tenet that the federal government's first priority is national defense? Do you feel confident that those currently in power are competent enough to handle threats to the nation? What if the levees had been breached by al-Qaeda bombs instead of a hurricane? Would responding to that sort of disaster still be the responsibility of local officials for the first 4 days or so?
 
Gene:

Brown's an idiot.

But for crissake, read the logistics posts on the blog.

How would Brown saying all the right things have gotten federal help into a disaster area the size of Britain any sooner?\

Please please please explain to me exactly how federal help could've reached New Orleans, and the rest of LA and Mississppi any sooner.

Maybe FEMA should have head a superduper transponder ready to zap food, water, food, generators and men in?
 
It makes no difference whether the levee breaks because of an Al Qaeda attack, or because of a hurricane, or because it was sabatoged by leprechauns. The logistical challenge of moving large amounts of federal material to New Orleans remains EXACTLY THE SAME.

And regardless, city and county officials should not expect a large scale federal response for 72-96 hours.

I mean, do the frigging math. Where do the trucks COME FROM?

The only way to cut a day or more off of the process is to store large amounts of federal material in each county. In which case, it STILL becomes a county responsibility, because it is up to county EOCs to direct its distribution.
 
Why anyone would want to read Hebert mystifies me. The man is utterly predictable, like Rich. The Atrios mob might find something there, but the reasonable person will look in vain for insight and even writing style. Pure hack.
 
Ya know, it just doesn't matter. We can talk about buses, federalis (a word they hate anyway), evacuation plans and who is ACTUALLY IN CHARGE OF THE FRIGGIN' GUARD, but it won't change a things - these people don't want facts, they want ammo. This isn't about New Orleans, it's about Bush. With the NYT it's been all about Bush for the last 4.5 years. It's also about the lefty worship of the Federal Government, and their dream of making it all powerful. They worhship the unitary countries in Europe. They realize that if they can just win the presidency and then arrogate all political power in the hands of the Federal Government, then they can be in total control - and won't have to worry about those pesky red states and their god and guns culture.

Thomas Kratman's "A State of Disobidience" always struck me as a paranoid fantasy (though a fun read for a first-time effort by the writer), but I am starting to think it's more true to life than I first gave it credit for.

I'm beginning to think that this is the beginning of the end for America as we know it. The UK, Germany and Canada have already slipped away. Australia is still holding out but for how long? The problem is that we (and by this I mean moderates and sensible conservatives) don't want to play bare knuckle politics all day, every day. I'd rather be at the beach and/or reading a good book. But these folks like Herbert and some of the Anons in here seem to eat it up with a spoon - no lie is too great or too outrageous, and if you repeat it often enough and loud enough, sooner or later more people will believe. And I'm just so damned tired. The Herbert piece is filled with so much crap I don't even know where to begin - and you can never refute all of it - you just go hoarse trying.

People are dying in New Orleans and these demagogues are trying get a lynch mob going. It's just too damn much.
 
I think of Herbert as a Democratic Party hack. He often parrots the message of the day. A year ago he quoted verbatum an attack from the Kerry rapid response team on the Swift Boat Vets.
 
If all these responsibilities were LOCAL, as you say, then what is the point of having a FEDERAL Emergency Management Agency?

To bring in more help.

What if the levees had been breached by al-Qaeda bombs instead of a hurricane?

Well, help wouldn't have to go through roads wrecked by a hurricane and would probably get through faster. Meanwhile the local and state authorities would still be the ones responding first to it.

Any more ignorant questions?
 
Your blog would be easier to read if you eased up on the all caps.
 
Normally this blog doesn't contain much in the way of all-caps.
 
Brilliant post. Just had to link.
 
You know what pisses me off?

I've sent people here from all over to read what you have to say regarding logistics, and it just doesn't sink in with any of them.

I sent Rich Lowry from NatlRev here, and he sent me a lame email reply saying he still thinks the feds could have responded faster. No mention of how of course!

Ditto with a commentator at Jeff Goldstein's site who insists the fed should have gone in and evac'd the Superdome by Wed. Bloody how I asked. No reply. They just should have.

It makes you want to scream and tear your hair out.

What don't these people understand?
 
I've gained a little more insight on the evac / rescue operations in NO. It seems that there was safety considerations as to how many helicopers could operate in NO. It also seems that the helepad at the Dome could not accomodate larger helicopers. This limits the ability to to pull people out by air. Many in the media are asking why the regular army did not come in faster. They just don't seem to realize that they can't go into an unsecured area. They are prohibited by law from acting as law enforcement. The National Guard and police must secure the area first.
 
what will it take until the incompetence of the gang in this administration comes home to you?

federal law says that fema was to take over the new olrleans crisis on aug. 29.

period. after that it was their responsibility.

but bushs crowd doesnt believe in government agencies, hence it had no capacity to. the department of housing and urban development still has 8 positions that are vacant in it. fema might as well be in the same sorry state given all the political hacks that run it and their total lack of expertise

for once you cant blame it on clinton (altho youll probably try).
even william cristol said clinton would have managed the crisis better. in fact its universally acknowledged that fema under clinton was highly efficient and competent. and he wouldnt have turned down requests for funding from the army corps of egineers as bush recently did twice.

remember, government isnt the solution, its the problem (reagan), anything government can do private enterprise can do better (think enron)ad nauseum.


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Therapeutic Massage : You might be thinking what does getting a massage do for my health other than to make me feel good.

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Body Fat : When you think about losing weight, more importantly than weight is the amount of fat you are carrying around.

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