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Senator Dick Durbin, D-IL, argues in today's Democratic Party's weekly radio address, that 44,000 U.S. troops-or more than a quarter of the troops in Iraq or Afghanistan still lack adequate body armor. That 44,000 number is, quite simply a lie.
First of all, the 44,000 number is over a year old, dating back at least to October 14th, 2003.
Oops. Make that October 13th, 2003.
Second, the 44,000 number was suspect even then. Army sources at the time were citing a shortfall of 30,000. The 44,000 figure was some partisan congressmen counting complaint letters and sticking their fingers in the wind.
You can view the provenance of the 44,000 number, and see how it was bandied about more than 13 months ago here.
So the Democratic party is claiming that since October of 2003, not a single additional soldier has been equipped?
Blow the whistle, ref. There's a flag on the play.
The figure seemed high to me at first glance since I never encountered a single soldier, airman, or Marine in Iraq who didn't have the latest kevlar vest after about September of 2003. Actually, my own unit was in Iraq for a couple of months before getting the new vests, and every time I went somewhere I'd stand out. "How come you guys don't have the kevlar vests?" people would say.
"Dunno. We're guard! We don't get shit!"
"Well you guys have balls of solid rock!"
"Well, what are you gonna do? NOT fight the war?"
Finally we got them around the first week of July of 2003.
(P.S., what's the deal with the idiots on the pentagon beat? Why are they just taking the claim at face value? Why does it fall to me to dig this obvious crap out?
Forget incompetence at the Pentagon. The REAL incompetence is with the reporters on the military beat!)
Splash, out
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First of all, the 44,000 number is over a year old, dating back at least to October 14th, 2003.
Oops. Make that October 13th, 2003.
Second, the 44,000 number was suspect even then. Army sources at the time were citing a shortfall of 30,000. The 44,000 figure was some partisan congressmen counting complaint letters and sticking their fingers in the wind.
You can view the provenance of the 44,000 number, and see how it was bandied about more than 13 months ago here.
So the Democratic party is claiming that since October of 2003, not a single additional soldier has been equipped?
Blow the whistle, ref. There's a flag on the play.
The figure seemed high to me at first glance since I never encountered a single soldier, airman, or Marine in Iraq who didn't have the latest kevlar vest after about September of 2003. Actually, my own unit was in Iraq for a couple of months before getting the new vests, and every time I went somewhere I'd stand out. "How come you guys don't have the kevlar vests?" people would say.
"Dunno. We're guard! We don't get shit!"
"Well you guys have balls of solid rock!"
"Well, what are you gonna do? NOT fight the war?"
Finally we got them around the first week of July of 2003.
(P.S., what's the deal with the idiots on the pentagon beat? Why are they just taking the claim at face value? Why does it fall to me to dig this obvious crap out?
Forget incompetence at the Pentagon. The REAL incompetence is with the reporters on the military beat!)
Splash, out
Jason
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Good job.
Here is the text of Durbin's comments. The key paragraph, for our purposes, is this:
"As of late October, an estimated 44,000 soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan still did not have adequate body armor..."
Whoa. One wonders whether he realizes that "late October" refers to Oct, 2003.
Here is a story from June 2004 talking about increased production and saying that shortages of body armor are over.
As Durbin dryly notes, "It's a matter of leadership." With facts like this, does he really think he is qualified to provide some?
Tom Maguire
Here is the text of Durbin's comments. The key paragraph, for our purposes, is this:
"As of late October, an estimated 44,000 soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan still did not have adequate body armor..."
Whoa. One wonders whether he realizes that "late October" refers to Oct, 2003.
Here is a story from June 2004 talking about increased production and saying that shortages of body armor are over.
As Durbin dryly notes, "It's a matter of leadership." With facts like this, does he really think he is qualified to provide some?
Tom Maguire
Here is what the article said on October 13, 2003:
"Production of the plates surged a year ago from about 3,000 per month to 6,000 to 10,000 per month, Nelson said. Current production is about 25,000 plates per month, he said, and the Army is working to double that to 50,000 per month. So, there were "as many as" 44,000 troops without the updated armour in October, 2003.
The companies manufacturing the armour were increasing the production capacity to 50,000 per month.
At this rate, within a couple of months all the shortage should have been overcome. Why are the democrats and MSM still talking about this figure?
"Production of the plates surged a year ago from about 3,000 per month to 6,000 to 10,000 per month, Nelson said. Current production is about 25,000 plates per month, he said, and the Army is working to double that to 50,000 per month. So, there were "as many as" 44,000 troops without the updated armour in October, 2003.
The companies manufacturing the armour were increasing the production capacity to 50,000 per month.
At this rate, within a couple of months all the shortage should have been overcome. Why are the democrats and MSM still talking about this figure?
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