Sunday, September 19, 2004
More on the 1-178th
Update: Here's Phil Carter:
No, I wouldn't be willing to write the unit off from afar. Tom Ricks' article doesn't give me enough information to truly evaluate the command here, and Phil is jumping to some conclusions.
First of all, there's no evidence presented that the unit refused to wear their uniforms. No one is saying a mutiny is taking place. The question I would have is this: are these guardsmen the only jokers on the post required to wear their uniforms 24/7? Many of these soldiers will have already had combat tours, or years of service. Maybe we shouldn't be treating them like basic trainees fresh off the bus at boot camp? Do we treat our active duty soldiers like this?
Second, I don't think there's any connection between having the discipline to wear your flak jacket in combat and going through a nutroll every time you send troops--grown men--to the PX. I don't care if they wore ballerina tutus to the PX; as a combat leader I would have no problem enforcing the flak jacket rule in combat. But as a commissioned officer, I would have to do that primarily through the efforts of the NCO's.
No problem.
Well, unless you treat your NCO's like basic trainees, too.
UPDATE: Cori Dauber is wondering whether the challenges in this unit are unique, or whether they are widespread among many Guard units going through the Mobilization process.
I cans state unequivocably that the soldiers of my own unit had many of the same complaints and challenges. I don't believe that they are unique at all. I think it has more to do with the failure of the Army to integrate reserve forces into the force structure. Reserve component soldiers are still treated like second class citizens.
Splash, out
Jason
Sending this unit into harm's way under these conditions would be tantamount to negligence and dereliction of duty — or worse. This is a formula for disaster...If I were on the Army staff evaluating this unit, I would recommend against sending it for the mean time. I would then fire most of the company and battalion leadership, and either break this unit up into fillers for other Guard units, or reconstitute this unit with a new base of leadership.
No, I wouldn't be willing to write the unit off from afar. Tom Ricks' article doesn't give me enough information to truly evaluate the command here, and Phil is jumping to some conclusions.
So... do you think this unit's soldiers are going to have the discipline to wear their body armor and carry their weapons 24/7 in Iraq if they can't stomach wearing their military uniforms 24/7 at Fort Dix? I doubt it.
First of all, there's no evidence presented that the unit refused to wear their uniforms. No one is saying a mutiny is taking place. The question I would have is this: are these guardsmen the only jokers on the post required to wear their uniforms 24/7? Many of these soldiers will have already had combat tours, or years of service. Maybe we shouldn't be treating them like basic trainees fresh off the bus at boot camp? Do we treat our active duty soldiers like this?
Second, I don't think there's any connection between having the discipline to wear your flak jacket in combat and going through a nutroll every time you send troops--grown men--to the PX. I don't care if they wore ballerina tutus to the PX; as a combat leader I would have no problem enforcing the flak jacket rule in combat. But as a commissioned officer, I would have to do that primarily through the efforts of the NCO's.
No problem.
Well, unless you treat your NCO's like basic trainees, too.
UPDATE: Cori Dauber is wondering whether the challenges in this unit are unique, or whether they are widespread among many Guard units going through the Mobilization process.
I cans state unequivocably that the soldiers of my own unit had many of the same complaints and challenges. I don't believe that they are unique at all. I think it has more to do with the failure of the Army to integrate reserve forces into the force structure. Reserve component soldiers are still treated like second class citizens.
Splash, out
Jason
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